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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.realdanlyons.com/blog/2008/09/28/google-bones-an-open-source-startup/#comment-2282</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Oct 2008 19:54:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sergey wears crocs</description>
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		<title>By: gfish</title>
		<link>http://www.realdanlyons.com/blog/2008/09/28/google-bones-an-open-source-startup/#comment-2281</link>
		<dc:creator>gfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interestingly enough, someone once asked Sergey and Larry about the &quot;don&#039;t be evil&quot; motto and what it means to them. They laughed and said that it&#039;s you, the user, who shouldn&#039;t be evil. So as long as you&#039;re not evil they can wreck companies and help the Chinese with the Great Firewall.

I suppose this is Google&#039;s mindset nowadays. They&#039;re so big, they can do anything they want to anyone without the capital to fight them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interestingly enough, someone once asked Sergey and Larry about the &#8220;don&#8217;t be evil&#8221; motto and what it means to them. They laughed and said that it&#8217;s you, the user, who shouldn&#8217;t be evil. So as long as you&#8217;re not evil they can wreck companies and help the Chinese with the Great Firewall.</p>
<p>I suppose this is Google&#8217;s mindset nowadays. They&#8217;re so big, they can do anything they want to anyone without the capital to fight them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.realdanlyons.com/blog/2008/09/28/google-bones-an-open-source-startup/#comment-2280</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 16:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m certainly not as experienced as Bob (or other startup bloggers and pundits), but I put together my own thoughts on the experience here: http://tinyurl.com/3jsld5

Hopefully, they will help someone else when making critical decisions about their startup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m certainly not as experienced as Bob (or other startup bloggers and pundits), but I put together my own thoughts on the experience here: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/3jsld5" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/3jsld5</a></p>
<p>Hopefully, they will help someone else when making critical decisions about their startup.</p>
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		<title>By: Will The Real Lastangelman Please Stand Up?</title>
		<link>http://www.realdanlyons.com/blog/2008/09/28/google-bones-an-open-source-startup/#comment-2279</link>
		<dc:creator>Will The Real Lastangelman Please Stand Up?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Bob Bickel

... spoken like a gentleman.

@ Mike Schachter

... you need to amend your sweeping indictments about bank CEOs - most are very conscientious and mindful of their depositors and employees. It is the CEOs and other officers and executives and lawyers and brokers of &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;very large financial institutions&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt; who created the current bubble pop. Not too many small solid savings banks who wisely avoided taking on risky debt and stayed with boring, tried and true but ultimately profitable risks took a bath, hmmm? A case of greed is good becomes greed is whoops! where&#039;d these banana peels under that ladder that black cat walked in front of came from?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Bob Bickel</p>
<p>&#8230; spoken like a gentleman.</p>
<p>@ Mike Schachter</p>
<p>&#8230; you need to amend your sweeping indictments about bank CEOs &#8211; most are very conscientious and mindful of their depositors and employees. It is the CEOs and other officers and executives and lawyers and brokers of <i><b>very large financial institutions</b></i> who created the current bubble pop. Not too many small solid savings banks who wisely avoided taking on risky debt and stayed with boring, tried and true but ultimately profitable risks took a bath, hmmm? A case of greed is good becomes greed is whoops! where&#8217;d these banana peels under that ladder that black cat walked in front of came from?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Schachter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Schachter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 04:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having been the first official employee of Ringside, I would just like to publicly say that Bob, you did not sully your reputation with me, and probably not with anyone else within Ringside.

Bob was very honest, approachable, and transparent with us from the start to the end. If only bank CEOs had the same virtues, maybe the United States economy wouldn&#039;t be on the brink of total collapse...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been the first official employee of Ringside, I would just like to publicly say that Bob, you did not sully your reputation with me, and probably not with anyone else within Ringside.</p>
<p>Bob was very honest, approachable, and transparent with us from the start to the end. If only bank CEOs had the same virtues, maybe the United States economy wouldn&#8217;t be on the brink of total collapse&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Butt Head</title>
		<link>http://www.realdanlyons.com/blog/2008/09/28/google-bones-an-open-source-startup/#comment-2277</link>
		<dc:creator>Butt Head</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 02:33:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You said bone. Heheheh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You said bone. Heheheh</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Bickel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Bickel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2008 01:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The comments are fairly accurate - it was my fault.  And I am more than willing to sully my reputation.

The quote of beware is simply intended to state that startups should beware, not to put the blame elsewhere.  I was not wary, and had too much trust in people and their &quot;word&quot;.

Bob Bickel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comments are fairly accurate &#8211; it was my fault.  And I am more than willing to sully my reputation.</p>
<p>The quote of beware is simply intended to state that startups should beware, not to put the blame elsewhere.  I was not wary, and had too much trust in people and their &#8220;word&#8221;.</p>
<p>Bob Bickel</p>
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		<title>By: Tel</title>
		<link>http://www.realdanlyons.com/blog/2008/09/28/google-bones-an-open-source-startup/#comment-2275</link>
		<dc:creator>Tel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing! Some startup company reinvents social networking for the thousandth time. They will probably need to reinvent a markup language and a layout engine to go with it. Now imagine this... some sort of room where you can chat, and send messages instantly. How good would that be?

&quot;By that time, of course, we had used up all of our seed money. And by backing away from our Series A offers, we kind of burned the VC’s. Even better, our development had stalled because of our desires to build stuff aligned with our new direction in the non-evil company.&quot;

So let me get this right, they had a great product, but stopped doing development because they got one offer that wasn&#039;t in any way concrete but they put all their money into preparing a bid for that one offer. Yup, Open Source is all about giving people the freedom to make choices, but it does not guarantee that those people make good choices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing! Some startup company reinvents social networking for the thousandth time. They will probably need to reinvent a markup language and a layout engine to go with it. Now imagine this&#8230; some sort of room where you can chat, and send messages instantly. How good would that be?</p>
<p>&#8220;By that time, of course, we had used up all of our seed money. And by backing away from our Series A offers, we kind of burned the VC’s. Even better, our development had stalled because of our desires to build stuff aligned with our new direction in the non-evil company.&#8221;</p>
<p>So let me get this right, they had a great product, but stopped doing development because they got one offer that wasn&#8217;t in any way concrete but they put all their money into preparing a bid for that one offer. Yup, Open Source is all about giving people the freedom to make choices, but it does not guarantee that those people make good choices.</p>
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		<title>By: Will The Real Lastangelman Please Stand Up?</title>
		<link>http://www.realdanlyons.com/blog/2008/09/28/google-bones-an-open-source-startup/#comment-2274</link>
		<dc:creator>Will The Real Lastangelman Please Stand Up?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 22:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Katie Poplin

There&#039;s more to this story than Bickel is saying. He&#039;s going to admit how he screwed up and sully his supposed golden boy rep? He&#039;s not a golden boy and you have stars in your eyes. He got greedy and stupid. He thought he was going to get another payday from a company with deep pockets. He also didn&#039;t want to share any potential Google money with VC, so he blew the VC off. He shot his own foot off and screwed over the other people in this venture,too. Go find another hero to worship.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Katie Poplin</p>
<p>There&#8217;s more to this story than Bickel is saying. He&#8217;s going to admit how he screwed up and sully his supposed golden boy rep? He&#8217;s not a golden boy and you have stars in your eyes. He got greedy and stupid. He thought he was going to get another payday from a company with deep pockets. He also didn&#8217;t want to share any potential Google money with VC, so he blew the VC off. He shot his own foot off and screwed over the other people in this venture,too. Go find another hero to worship.</p>
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		<title>By: SamG</title>
		<link>http://www.realdanlyons.com/blog/2008/09/28/google-bones-an-open-source-startup/#comment-2273</link>
		<dc:creator>SamG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 19:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are we talking the same wolf who ate Wolf Street, pardon, Wall Street or are we talking the wolf starred in &quot;three piglets and some shaky real estate?&quot;

If they got a bone from grandma, that&#039;s Hansel &amp; Gretel (there are cookies and breadcrumbs in that story, too, so it fits into web 2.0 myths).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we talking the same wolf who ate Wolf Street, pardon, Wall Street or are we talking the wolf starred in &#8220;three piglets and some shaky real estate?&#8221;</p>
<p>If they got a bone from grandma, that&#8217;s Hansel &amp; Gretel (there are cookies and breadcrumbs in that story, too, so it fits into web 2.0 myths).</p>
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